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16 September 2010 @ 10:59 pm
My New Toy  
I love to read, and I love to read via my Kindle. So, I had some extra money and bought the newest edition of the Kindle. It's lighter and has a better resolution than my previous Kindle. I had a choice of buying the WI-Fi only edition for $50.00 less or the Wi-Fi and 3G edition.  I  decided to spend the extra money (from $139 to $189) because I can't guarantee that I will always be around an area with Wi-Fi hookup. With the 3G, I can guarantee that I can always access Amazon.com. I also have a new cover with a built-in light. Life is good!

mooncovemooncove on September 17th, 2010 03:54 am (UTC)
I was staunchly against eBooks when they first came out because, not only do I love the visceral feel of turning the pages of a book, the lost art of bookbinding, not having to plug it in or replace a battery or call tech support because it's stopped working, and "that new book smell," not to mention, hoarder that I am, the fact that I can own the copy of the book and re-read it, refer to it, or lend it out any time (although I've stopped lending out books since I never get them back, but then, I'm guilty of the same crime, so I don't borrow books anymore either) without the worry that Big Brother is going to suddenly decide that my computerized copy is out-of-print and "pull the plug" on it. Not to further mention that reading text on a white, illuminated background (e.g., on the computer) hurts my eyes. But ...

With my latest move, my house is so overloaded with books, I fear I'm going to need to add on a library wing, which contradicts the point of my moving to a smaller house. So I'm starting to think that the option to read portable, electronic books may be the way to go in the future, especially those I would have otherwise borrowed from the library and just returned without feeling a need to "own" a copy. (The idea of a built-in nightlight is compelling too--but not if it just means a brighter screen.) I'm curious to know more about how it works. Can you "illuminate" me? Like, once you download a book, is it "yours" to keep forever and ever (until your old Kindle becomes obsolete in six months and you need to upgrade ;))? Or does it reside on a server, and is it like reading a webpage? And if you don't get to keep it, are the books cheaper? Can you change the page colors, say, to purple type on a black background? Etc.?

BTW, love your new new color scheme. And that icon is perfect, hee. (Except ... did they fix Sawyer's original glasses from the first season? It doesn't look so much like the halves of two different pairs taped together as they used to, lol.
Any further questions? Ask the shrimp!txvoodoo on September 17th, 2010 05:22 am (UTC)
Any books you buy on Amazon are yours forever. You can re-download them at any time, and on any of your Kindle-capable devices (the Kindle itself, or the apps for iphone/blackberry/ipad/mac or windows computer)

I go a step further. I download them and save them on our backup drive because I am paranoid :D

They stay "your books" if you buy a new Kindle, too!

Also, any books you get elsewhere that you put on your Kindle are yours, as well. (other ebook sellers out there - some conversion may be required, I use Calibre - http://calibre-ebook.com/ )

The Kindle isn't a white, illuminated background - it's e-ink - a completely different technology. It's as easy on the eyes as a book.

You can't change the color on the Kindle, but I have seriously never felt the need to do so - much like I wouldn't in a book. You can increase (or decrease) the font size, which is LOVELY to my aging eyes.

Another selling point for me (I have some nerve damage in my hands) is the weight. I love big fat books - but they are HEAVY and awkward. The Kindle is lighter than most paperbacks (at least the big, meaty ones I read!). And it holds about 3,500 books.

My husband and I each got Kindles in 2007. Since then, we've been slowly converting to all ebooks, selling our old paper books. We've cleared out about 5 bookcases so far (out of 13). We will always have some paper books - my antique childrens books, large books on saltwater fish, cookbooks (though I've been doing some cookbooks with the ipad lately!), graphic novels, etc. But out of our 3000+ paper books, we're down to about 1800 now.

I'd be happy to answer more questions!
mooncovemooncove on September 28th, 2010 05:21 am (UTC)
Thanks for the info! I was in Barnes and Noble today, and they're really pushing this Nook--their version of Kindle--so I got to see one for myself in person. It actually wasn't hard on the eyes at all ... I kinda want one now, but they are slightly weighty. It's too bad Amazon doesn't have a physical store where you could go and see a Kindle and pick it up and compare with the Nook.

So did you actually comparison shop and purposely pick the Kindle over the Nook? (Or did Kindle just come along first?) I'm wondering which one is better. (I actually got to talk to the Nook rep and have him demo it; doesn't seem like I would really need 3G though as long as I have wireless Internet. I think if I thought of a book I needed while out shopping or something, I could probably wait till I got home to download it.)

BTW, one thing I forgot to ask the salesman: Can you actually "lend" books to other people with a Kindle (and/or Nook), or give away a book that you've bought/downloaded? Also, he said you could download books from the library (and they will just disappear when they're due back--sadly, our county library would probably go broke without all the overdue fines I'm always paying!--maybe it's region-dependent, but I wonder if Kindle has the same capability?
Any further questions? Ask the shrimp!txvoodoo on September 28th, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
If you have a Target or Best Buy near you, youcan go in and check out the Kindle there.

I bought my kindle in early 2008 - no nook back then!

You can't loan books, but when you do, on the nook, it disappears fromyour nook when you lend.

The library thing doesn't work with all libraries.

On the Kindle, if you have other family members who have one, you can add up to 5 or 6 (I can't remember) people to a list on Amazon that lets you share your Amazon-purchased books with them, and vice versa.
mooncovemooncove on September 28th, 2010 07:20 am (UTC)
So you're saying you can't loan books on Kindle but you can on the Nook? And with Nook, can the person give the book back to your Nook when you're done? (So I take it that means you can only lend your Nook book to a person with another Nook ... no interaction between Nook and Kindle?)

Can you do other stuff as well, like play MP3s on Kindle like you can with Nook?
Any further questions? Ask the shrimp!txvoodoo on September 28th, 2010 07:23 am (UTC)
No interaction between Nook & Kindle

Nook's 'lending' - you allow someone to borrow a book, it lasts 2 weeks, then reverts to your nook.

Kindle can play mp3

If you're weighing which one to buy, right now, I'd go with Kindle. The lastest version is better on price and features than the current version of the Nook. Visually, it's scads better. Battery life is fabulous. And it's much cheaper.
mooncovemooncove on September 28th, 2010 07:38 am (UTC)
Hmm, I just looked online for a comparison of Nook and Kindle 2 and found this very unbiased-sounding article saying it's more a personal choice depending on your reading habits. Decisions, decisions. To me it seems the Nook would be more practical (but it mentions that you can't use it internationally; does that mean you just can't download new books, or you can't use it at all while abroad?), but aesthetically, I think the Kindle looks better. I especially like the keypad, and it is lighter by a couple of ounces. I think I'll probably wait a while longer for them both to develop their technology a little further. BTW, that $259 price tag is $110 more than what I saw in the store today (without 3G). I do love just hanging out in Barnes & Noble inhaling all that delicious, fresh book aroma ... but not the Starbuck's odor. (The smell of coffee has always made me nauseous!)
mooncovemooncove on September 28th, 2010 08:07 am (UTC)
Thanks for your help, TxVoodoo. Kindle does sound slightly better in its physical technology (I prefer the actual typing buttons over a touchpad, not to mention the lighter weight), but I would really like to be able to download "EPUB" books and lend things out to any other Nook user of my choice, so I may just wait for Nook to catch up as far as the aesthetics. This article I just found pretty much agrees with you: "Currently, the third-generation Kindle tops the list as our overall e-book reader choice. The Barnes & Noble Nook is close behind (if you prefer EPUB compatibility and the ability to "lend" some e-books to fellow Nook readers)."

Thanks also to Spicedogs for sharing her reader and actually getting me to investigate e-books, which I was initially not interested in. The e-ink really is easy on the eyes. (There is a reading light available for the Nook also, BTW, but it's a separate clip-on, not built into the cover.) And I was glad to see by the article that I'm not the only one who gets eyestrain from reading on the "backlit" computer. Don't know why sooooo many websites have white backgrounds, which just make me dizzy after a while, while they don't seem to bother other people, but apparently (based on my support-group meetings) sensitivity to light from computer screen and fluorescent bulbs is an ADD thing. I'm dreading the day incandescent light bulbs are phased out permanently! (BTW, I'm definitely not going to dole out the mega-moolah for an iPad after reading this article!)
juliahenderson: Ice Cream Jackjuliahenderson on September 17th, 2010 04:32 am (UTC)
This is weird because I just posted that I want to buy a Kindle on my Facebook page.
Anyway, I am jealous!
Glad you posted this because I think I will get the latest model as well.
Grats on the new Kindle!
Spicedogsspicedogs on September 17th, 2010 03:28 pm (UTC)
The latest model is so worth it. It's lighter than the original.
I am of the stars, I am called forever: TVD: Jeremy Gilbert steph2311 on September 17th, 2010 11:07 am (UTC)
I am seriously thinking of buying my Mum a Kindle for her Birthday/ Christmas as she is an avid reader, but I'm not sure if she would cope with the technology.

How exactly does getting a copy of the book work? Is it like an iTunes thing where you download it to your PC and then sync it with the kindle, like you would an iPod/ iPhone? If so, I could download it to my PC and do it for her.

On average how much do the books cost? Are they more expensive than the "proper" book?

is there a good selection of books/ are things released in paperback at the same time as a Kindle version?

Also, what's this about you not actually owning the book? Can you only read it once and then it's gone or something?
Spicedogs: Kindlespicedogs on September 17th, 2010 03:27 pm (UTC)
Getting a book off of Amazon.com for the Kindle is the easiest thing ever. You go to Amazon.com, click to buy the book and the book is immediately downloaded to the Kindle. Of course,the Kindle must be on. If, however, the Kindle is not on, the book is downloaded to your Amazon.com account. You can then go to your Kindle, scroll down to manage my account and have the book transferred over.

The books are much cheaper than the paperback version of the book. Some are as low as $0.99. And, yes, there's a large selection of books to choose from.

The books you buy are yours to keep. There was a controversy a few months ago about a pirated version of 1984 that was retrieved by Amazon.com due to copyright infringement. However, the money was returned to the customers.
mooncovemooncove on September 28th, 2010 05:26 am (UTC)
As I mentioned to TXVoodoo above, I was in Barnes and Noble today looking at their version called the Nook. The salesman told me you can not only download books but also play games (not really interested in that) and access the Internet on it but also store MP3s on it. Can you do that with Kindle too? Also, he said that the books were 50 to 60 percent cheaper to download on Nook versus buying them in the store--should have asked whether that includes the in-store member discount. I'm just wondering whether the discount is comparable on Amazon/Kindle?
Spicedogs: Bookwormspicedogs on September 28th, 2010 02:10 pm (UTC)
Most of the books that I purchased via Kindle goes for $9.99. Some are as low as $3.99. (I'm not mentioning some of the freebie specials that Amazon offers now and then.)From what I understand the books are about 60% lower in price than the actual hard-cover price at Amazon itself. So, yes, the saving is tremendous. Moreover, I don't know about you, but we ran out of space where to put our books. It's nice to have the eBook and have Amazon house them for me.

I think you can upload mp3s. At least, you could with my first generation Kindle, which, by the way, is now with my daughter who is a Nook owner. My Kindle is easier for her to use. Amazon sent me both Kindles fully formatted and ready to use. My daughter still has not figured out the Nook.

Getting back to mp3s. How found that I never used it with my first generation. I prefer to use my iPod for my mp3 usage, my Kindle for my reading, and my iPhone for my communication. I don't own an iPad, my daughter-in-law's sister owns one. The iPad is very heavy and is not good for reading, as it is back lit. If I were ever to buy an iPad, it would be to make my computer usage more portable.

Edited at 2010-09-28 02:14 pm (UTC)
Melissa: geekxgirl30 on September 18th, 2010 06:08 am (UTC)
The new Kindle looks cool. (I'm not sure if I'd like the size though. It looks kind of big to carry in your purse.)
I love regular books and don't think I'd ever want to see them totally phased out. That being said, I'm really starting to like ebooks too.
I don't know if I'd want a dedicated ebook reader though. They're cool but it would be just one more device to carry every day.
I have the Kindle app for my iPod Touch and I love it. (The only drawback is the screen is a little harder to see in bright sunlight than e-ink would be.)
Spicedogs: readspicedogs on September 18th, 2010 02:14 pm (UTC)
This edition of the Kindle is the size of a paperback, the thickness of a pencil, and weighs as much as the iPhone. I don't think that books will be totally eradicated, as there are still books that will never be converted to eBooks. J. K. Rawlings is one who does not alliow her books to be converted. But let me tell you, when I was reading the HP series this summer, I wished that they were available in eBook format. It was not easy to carry the bulky books, especially when I was finishing one of them and was carrying the next one as well.

I also have the iPhone app and used it a lot more often when I had the previous version of the Kindle. That Kindle was a bit heavier. However, I found that the backlight in the iPhone was not easy on my eyes. And, as you pointed out, reading the iPhone on a sunny day is a challenge.

Edited at 2010-09-18 02:16 pm (UTC)
Melissa: geekxgirl30 on September 19th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
I didn't realize the Kindle was that small and light. (It looked bigger in the pictures.)

I totally agree about carrying around big books like the HP ones. It would be great if they were available as ebooks.
I wonder why authors wouldn't want their works in that format? Is it piracy concerns? (I would think that DRM would help prevent that.)
mooncove: snapemooncove on September 28th, 2010 05:30 am (UTC)
If only they were available as e-books,, not only wouldn't you have to carry the bulky Harry Potter books around with you to read them, but you could keep your hard copies in ultra-pristine condition on your bookshelf! :) (I'm one of those compulsive weirdos who can't stand getting my books all dog-eared; I'm so careful with them, I try not to even crack the spines of my paperbacks!
Spicedogsspicedogs on September 28th, 2010 03:17 pm (UTC)
LOL. I am that way as well. I have two copies of some books. Some to read and some to keep on my shelf.